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BATCH NUMBER -- NOT SPECIFIED -- ORDER NUMBER -- NOT SPECIFIED -- DESCRIPTION OF THE PROBLEM Non-specific bands with mouse liver extract. SAMPLE mouse liver extract PRIMARY ANTIBODY AB4150 SECONDARY ANTIBODY [another company] rabbit anti goat DETECTION METHOD radiolabeled ANTIBODY STORAGE CONDITIONS aliquots frozen at -20?C then stored at 4?C after thawing AMOUNT OF PROTEIN LOADED 10?g extract ELECTROPHORESIS/GEL CONDITIONS reducing TRANSFER AND BLOCKING CONDITIONS Towbin, 2hrs ADDITIONAL NOTES Have you tried this antibody with mouse ? In my hands, it generates a lot of non-specific bands. Thoughts appreciated. |
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Thank you for your enquiry. Yes, this antibody has been tested for cross-reactivity with both mouse and human. On the online datasheet for ab4150 there are two Western blot images, the first one using Jurkat lysate and the second one showing HeLa whole cell lysate and 3T3 whole cell lysate. Have you tried a positive control? We recommend Jurkat lysate. You didn't mention what dilutions you have tried, but to try to reduce the number of non-specific bands, I suggest the following: Decrease the amount of primary antibody that you are using as well as decrease the incubation period time. Decrease the amount of secondary antibody that you are using and also make sure to run a secondary antibody control (no primary antibody) to ensure these bands are not due to your secondary antibody. Please let me know if you need further assistance. |
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BATCH NUMBER 43997 ORDER NUMBER z759557 DESCRIPTION OF THE PROBLEM No signal SAMPLE M17 human neuroblastoma cell protein extract, whole mouse brain extract PRIMARY ANTIBODY 1:1000 in PBS+5%milk overnight. Wash 3X 10 minutes in PBS-Tween20 SECONDARY ANTIBODY anti-rb goat HRP, 1 hour at room temperature, 1:2000. DETECTION METHOD ECL plus ANTIBODY STORAGE CONDITIONS -20 SAMPLE PREPARATION Sigma protein lysis buffer AMOUNT OF PROTEIN LOADED 10ug ELECTROPHORESIS/GEL CONDITIONS 4-20% TRANSFER AND BLOCKING CONDITIONS Transfer buffer, 4degrees overnight at 30volts, block with 5%milk HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU TRIED THE APPLICATION? 2 HAVE YOU RUN A "NO PRIMARY" CONTROL? No DO YOU OBTAIN THE SAME RESULTS EVERY TIME? Yes WHAT STEPS HAVE YOU ALTERED? Tried different samples. |
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I'm sorry to hear you are having a problem with our PARK7 (DJ1) antibody ab4150. I would like to suggest the following modifications to your protocol: - The protein subcellular localisation is described as both nuclear and cytoplasmic, I would therefore suggest using nuclear and cytoplasmic extracts of your samples rather than whole cell extracts. -Load more protein per well (40-50ug) and use more concentrated primary antibody (try 1:250, 1:500) (still overnight at 4C) -check the transfer is working properly by doing a Ponceau red stain -use a positive control such as Jurkat cell lysate. I hope these suggestions will help, do not hesitate to contact us for further advice, |
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DESCRIPTION OF THE PROBLEM I tested this antibody on adult mouse brain lysate(50ug per lane). I got one single 28kd band(I cut the membrane, only use the part lower than 35kd). The protein marker was from Bio-Rad prestained SDS-PAGE standards low range 161-0305 SAMPLE adult mouse brain whole protein lysate(50ug per lane) PRIMARY ANTIBODY 1:1000 in 6% milk, 4hour R.T. DETECTION METHOD supersignal pico POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE CONTROLS USED no ANTIBODY STORAGE CONDITIONS 4deg for only 3 days upon receiving. AMOUNT OF PROTEIN LOADED 50ug HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU TRIED THE APPLICATION? 1 HAVE YOU RUN A "NO PRIMARY" CONTROL? No DO YOU OBTAIN THE SAME RESULTS EVERY TIME? Yes |
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Thank you for your enquiry and patience. It is interesting that you got a single band at 28 kDa. The predicted molecular weight of Park7/DJ-1 is 19.8 kDa (Swissprot Accession Number Q99497) and an approximately 20 kDa band was seen in Jurkat lysate when this antibody was tested. However, in the literature there is wide variation in reported molecular weights for this antibody and two other distributors have reported that this clone detects a band at 28 kDa. We are currently looking into this issue further. Our antibody has not been tested before with mouse samples, only human, so we unfortunately cannot give any guarantees regarding how the antibody works with untested species. My recommendation is to run a positive control - Jurkat lysate. If you have any more questions or comments, please do not hesitate to contact us again. |
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Customer says that other monoclonals to PARK7 recognize a 28 kDa band, so why does ab4150 recoginze a 20 kDa band? |
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Thank you for your enquiry. You raise an interesting point and we have taken it very seriously. As you may know the predicted molecular weight of Park7/DJ-1 is 19.8 kDa (Swissprot Accession Number Q99497) so a band of 28 kDa is substantially larger than predicted. Furthermore a quick survey of the literature on this antibody shows wide variation in reported molecular weights: - As you say, the two distributors claim 28kDa - Le Naour et al in Clin Cancer Res. 2001 Nov;7(11):3328-35 use the same antibody and find reactive spots at around 25kDa using 2D-PAGE - Bandopadhyay et al in Brain. 2004 Feb;127(Pt 2):420-30 again use the same antibody in 1D and 2D PAGE and clearly show it running at 20KDa! So our result does not actually seem inconsistent with the literature and the predicted size of the protein. |
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Predicted band size : 20 kDa
ab4150 staining (1µg/ml) of Jurkat lysate (RIPA buffer, 30µg total protein per lane). Primary incubated for 1 hour. Detected by western blot using chemiluminescence.
Predicted band size : 20 kDa
Western blot using ab4150 at 1/500.
Exposure time: 30s.
Left hand lane: HeLa whole cell lysate (human)
Right hand lane: 3T3 whole cell lysate (mouse)
Anti-PARK7/DJ1 antibody (ab4150) at 1/6000 dilution
Secondary
HRP conjugated Donkey anti mouse at 1/10000 dilution
developed using the ECL technique
Performed under reducing conditions.
Predicted band size : 20 kDa
Observed band size : 24 kDa (why is the actual band size different from the predicted?)
Exposure time : 1 minute
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