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Thanks for your response. I was just wondering what temperature and for how long you would recommend fixing cells for with the acetone? Thanks |
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I typically use acetone like methanol, by cooling it down in the freezer in a little pot (for 30min-1hr), then aspirating the medium of cells and adding the acetone on the cells and leaving them to be fixed on the bench (I would recommend trying 5 and 10 mins). I hope this helps, please let me know how the next set of experiments go! |
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I have attached a file relating to my enquiry. Apologies for not attaching it previously - I did prepare the file to do so but then completely forgot to attach it! As you can se, with the Rab5 antibody I observe perinuclear/cytoplasmic staining however with the EEA1 antibody I observe punctate staining scattered across the cell surface - obviously these two patterns of localization differ despite the two antibodies being early endosome markers. Hope this helps Thanks for examining my images. |
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Many thanks for the images, the Rab5 is particularly beautiful, it must be really nice looking down the microscope and seeing this staining! I think the Rab5 is working well, and we need to concentrate on why the EAA1 antibody is giving a different staining. I looked at the Abreviews for this antibody and there is an image from an anonymous researcher which looks very much like your image of EAA1 (and the reviewer has used formaldehyde fixation on mouse Hepa cells). I am wondering if too much fixation or the wrong fixative alters the epitope and makes the antibody give non specific staining. You mention having done a no primary control, can I please check that this was for both antibodies? I would recommend to try the following: -fix the cells in methanol for 5 minutes with ice cold methanol (but fix the cells at room temperature) (it might be worth trying acetone too) -add less primary antibody (trying 1:500 for example), but maybe incubating longer so the antibody binds slowly but specifically -add less secondary antibody (I use Alexa antibodies at 1:2000-1:3000) As Rab5 and EAA1 are not the same protein I am not surprised that they do not give an identical staining pattern in the cytosol, and I hope that the modifications to the protocol for EAA1 will remove the nuclear background staining you currently have. Please do not hesitate to contact me if you still experience problems, with the above changes, I would be happy to offer you a refund on your order if you purchased the antibodies in the last 90 days, |
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DESCRIPTION OF THE PROBLEM Using the Rab5 antibody for IF in both mouse liver (Hepa) cells and mouse embryo fibroblasts (PEA13), I have observed a staining pattern consistent with the published picture on your website. However I also use your EEA1 antibody (ab2900) and whilst I obtain good staining with this - I notice that the staining pattern produced by the two antibodies is not the same. They are both supposed to be markers of early endosomes therefore I was wondering if you could explain their different staining patterns in untreated cells? SAMPLE Mouse liver (Hepa) cells mouse embryo fibroblasts (PEA13s) PRIMARY ANTIBODY anti Rab5 (ab18211)1 ug/ml in blocking buffers 1 h at RT anti EEA1 (ab2900) 1:200 in blocking buffers 1 h at RT Washed 3 x 5 mins TBS-T DETECTION METHOD IF microscopy SAMPLE PREPARATION Samples fixed using either methanol at -20 degC for 10 mins or 3.7% formaldehyde for 10mins followed by 0.1% Triton-X-100 for 5 mins. TRANSFER AND BLOCKING CONDITIONS Cells blocked with either 10% NGS-PBS or 5% BSA-TBS-T SECONDARY ANTIBODY 1:1000 AlexaFluor 488 goat anti-rabbit IgG diluted in blocking buffers 1 h at RT Washed 3 x 5 min TBS-T HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU TRIED THE APPLICATION? 3 HAVE YOU RUN A "NO PRIMARY" CONTROL? Yes WHAT STEPS HAVE YOU ALTERED? Different blockers as mentioned above and different methods of fixation. |
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Thank you for contacting us for technical support with ab2900 and ab18211. It would be very useful if you could send images of your staining so we can better understand your data. Thank you very much for sending those, I look forward to hearing from you, |
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Anti-Rab5 antibody - Early Endosome Marker (ab18211) at 1 µg/ml + Jurkat cell lysate at 20 µg
Secondary
Alexa Fluor Goat polyclonal to Rabbit IgG (700) at 1/5000 dilution
Predicted band size : 24 kDa
Observed band size : 24 kDa
Additional bands at : 40 kDa,70 kDa. We are unsure as to the identity of these extra bands.
ICC/IF image of ab18211 stained human HeLa cells. The cells were methanol fixed (5 min) and incubated with the antibody (ab18211, 1µg/ml) for 1h at room temperature. The secondary antibody (green) was Alexa Fluor® 488 goat anti-rabbit IgG (H+L) used at a 1/1000 dilution for 1h. Image-iTTM FX Signal Enhancer was used as the primary blocking agent, 5% BSA (in TBS-T) was used for all other blocking steps. DAPI was used to stain the cell nuclei (blue). Alexa Fluor® 594 WGA was used to label plasma membranes (red).
All lanes : Anti-Rab5 antibody - Early Endosome Marker (ab18211) at 1 µg/ml
Lane 1 :
Lane 2 : MEF1 (Mouse embryonic fibroblast cell line) Whole Cell Lysate (ab46770)
Lane 3 : Brain (Mouse) Tissue Lysate (ab27253)
Lane 4 : Testis (Mouse) Tissue Lysate - normal tissue
Lane 5 : Spinal Cord (Mouse) Tissue Lysate
Lane 6 : PC12 (Rat adrenal pheochromocytoma cell line) Whole Cell Lysate
Lane 7 : Brain (Rat) Tissue Lysate - normal tissue
Lane 8 : Heart (Rat) Tissue Lysate
Lysates/proteins at 10 µg per lane.
Secondary
IRDye 680 Conjugated Goat Anti-Rabbit IgG (H+L) at 1/10000 dilution
Performed under reducing conditions.
Predicted band size : 24 kDa
Observed band size : 25 kDa (why is the actual band size different from the predicted?)
ab18211 at 1/300 staining adult rat brain (perfusion fixed) tissue sections by IHC-Fr. Adult rat was perfused intracardially with paraformaldehyde 4% in PB 0.2M. The brain was post-fixed in the same fixative for 24 hours. Sections were cryoprotected with sucrose 20% and later frozen in OCT. Sections were incubated in free floating for 12h with the primary antibody (1/300) and later revealed with secondary antibody conjugated with Alexa Fluor ® 488 (1/2000).
The staining obtained is restricted to the cytoplasm and consists of a small and thin punctate staining. The picture shows the staining obtained at the level of the spinal cord using the X20 objective and zooming on two particular neurons.
This image is courtesy of an Abreview submitted by Dr Sophie Pezet
ab18211 immunoprecipitated Rab5 in Mouse neuroblastoma N2a whole cell lysate. 10µg of cell lysate was incubaed with primary antibody (1/2000 in dilution buffer:0.025 M Tris, 0.15 M NaCl, 0.001 M EDTA, 1% NP-40, 5% glycerol pH 7.4) for 2 hours at 22ºC and an AminoLink® Plus Coupling Resin matrix.
For Western blotting an HRP conjugated goat monoclonal to rabbit IgG (1/2000) was used.
This image is courtesy of an anonymous Abreview
ICC/IF image of ab18211 stained Hela cells. The cells were 4% PFA fixed (10 min) and then incubated in 1%BSA / 10% normal goat serum / 0.3M glycine in 0.1% PBS-Tween for 1h to permeabilise the cells and block non-specific protein-protein interactions. The cells were then incubated with the antibody (ab18211, 5µg/ml) overnight at +4ºC. The secondary antibody (green) was DyLight® 488 goat anti-rabbit IgG - H&L, pre-adsorbed (ab96899) used at a 1/250 dilution for 1h. Alexa Fluor® 594 WGA was used to label plasma membranes (red) at a 1/200 dilution for 1h. DAPI was used to stain the cell nuclei (blue) at a concentration of 1.43µM.
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